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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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doc3d wrote: |
This kind of stuff is beyond the financial range of most fans.
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Exactly! I used to know some hobbyists that could do it, but they gave up a long time ago. I may have to go to my camera shop and see if he knows anybody else who might be able to do it. Ironically even though Silk screening can be cheap in comparison, some of the places I worked with would also use photoliths to make the screens. Most of the ones I know now just print onto transparency paper or vellum.
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Mr Webber Community Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 1824 Location: Terra Australis
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting doc, the printer does them for me at such a great price, complete with the acrylic, that i`ll stick with him but if you dont try new ideas you dont really learn anything so will
have a crack at it when i can. _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 2724 Location: FRANCE
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Tim,
Found this in one of the ultimate DVD featurettes...
It's a pretty interesting sign, don't you think ?
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST |
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Mr Webber Community Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Its perfect Fred and very easy to reproduce i think.
Anyone could do the artwork and possibly because the neon is so straight forward , it may be affordable.
Great for display _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I am lobbying for a run of the VidPhon signs
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Mr Webber Community Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 1824 Location: Terra Australis
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Definately Andy, what i`ll probably do is just get the acrylics made for anyone who wants them and they can take it from there, i dont think
shipping for a completed lightbox would be practical.
The signs vary around $30-40US each plus shipping, if i got him to do a run say of 10 vid phons, i might be cheaper.
If anyone can tell me if these prices compare with international prices it would be handy to know as i dont want to waste anyones time.
The guys back from hols on Jan 10th so weve got some time if anyone has some input. _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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andy wrote: | I am lobbying for a run of the VidPhon signs
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I would be OK to buy at least 1, maybe 2or 3... Great project, guys !!!
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST |
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temponaut Community Member
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 440 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be in for one, too! _________________ "Your old titles mean nothing here... Captain!" |
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Mr Webber Community Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 1824 Location: Terra Australis
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sure thing temponaut. BTW are there any facilities in Japan to purchase second hand neon signs? Im thinking that any Japanese neon would smoke in a BR collection, it seems if you customise a neon sign its very expensive, a generic, second hand one, not so much.
The printer is back from holidays soon and i need a better pic of the vid phon sign to make it all very quick and easy for him, if anyone can help
it would be appreciated.
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phoenixvader Community Member
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 33 Location: Looking for Tuco and Angle Eyes in New Mexico
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Here is something quick and dirty.
thomas;)
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Mr Webber Community Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 1824 Location: Terra Australis
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much Thomas, thats great.
He should be able to smooth out those lines without a problem. _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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temponaut Community Member
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 440 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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offworld66 wrote: | Sure thing temponaut. BTW are there any facilities in Japan to purchase second hand neon signs? Im thinking that any Japanese neon would smoke in a BR collection, it seems if you customise a neon sign its very expensive, a generic, second hand one, not so much. |
Offhand, the best bet I can think of is Yahoo! Japan Auctions; a cursory search just now revealed a variety of used neon signs available. I also found many neon signs available new at pretty reasonable prices. Unfortunately, the vast majority of these signs seem to be written in English rather than Kanji, or to feature logos (e.g., "Lowenbrau," "Miller High Life," etc.) that are familiar on neon signs easily available Stateside.
I did find several Kanji signs made from clear plastic panels with words and/or pictures cut into the plastic; when a (built-in) colored light is directed through the panel, the cuts refract/reflect light to the eyes of the viewer, causing the words and images to glow brilliantly.
Here are few examples. The opening price on each auction is JPY2000, which is currently the equivalent of US $21.27.
Kanji for samurai (BiN price: JPY2500):
http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n64631823
Kanji for bushido ("the way of the warrior," BiN price: JPY2500):
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k105533798
Kanji for eigyouchuu ("open for business," BiN price: JPY2200):
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e86753525
Kanji for yoyakuseki ("reserved seat," BiN price JPY2200):
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e82716582
Hiragana for youkoso ("Wecome," BiN price: JPY2200):
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h124603003
Roman letter sign for "sushi" (not Kanji, but still appropriate for Deckard )
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h124425556
Roman letter "Beware of Bulldog" sign (for Blaster lovers; BiN price: JPY2500):
http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w3242635
"Atari" logo (if I recall correctly, this logo actually appears on a sign in the film; BiN price: JPY2500):
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k106677798
This company also takes custom orders. It would be interesting to see what they can do with the White Dragon or Eye World artwork.
The problem with these "etched board" signs is that, although they are visually striking, they don't have the same "mod retro noir" effect of humming neon tubes. _________________ "Your old titles mean nothing here... Captain!" |
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doc3d Community Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Offworld, Considering my main telephone is an original Western Electric spit cup bakelite dial handset made in the 1920s restored to as new working condition-- the first model made after the candlesticks and just like one seen in the Maltese Falcon, I'd better get into this Vid Phon deal if a slot is open. I do have to fess up and say that I tacked on a down stream touch tone generator so I can do "press one to be on hold forever" since the phone itself has a mechanical dial)
Count me in!
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Mr Webber Community Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 1824 Location: Terra Australis
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Much appreciation for your great research temponaut, i`ve had a couple of the laser cut lights for a while, their actually quite good and very cheap,
picked mine up for $6 each. Your right though, neon is king.
No problem doc, they will be made to order and only for propsummit members, no profit in it for me but as i live close to the printer and post office, its no hassle. _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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temponaut Community Member
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 440 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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offworld66 wrote: | Much appreciation for your great research temponaut, i`ve had a couple of the laser cut lights for a while, their actually quite good and very cheap, picked mine up for $6 each. Your right though, neon is king. |
You're welcome, offworld66. Glad to help out however I can.
I'll snoop around a little more this weekend to see if I can't find an inexpensive resource for authentic neon signs written in Kanji. _________________ "Your old titles mean nothing here... Captain!" |
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doc3d Community Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Washington
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Offworld66, A little bit of a sidetrack, but will/can your printer do vertical barrier black (e.g. totally opaque) stripes on optically clear thin plastic, or does it have to be a dimensional slab? And do them according to specific spacing with great consistency over a wide range of sizes? If this is too convoluted, I can PM more info...
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Gaff87 Community Member
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1727 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Thought i'd give the logo a try aswell. Not too happy with it though, too many straight lines
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Mr Webber Community Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks Neil and spinner44.com, got it nailed now.
doc, you better send me a PM. I got everything up to "A little bit of a sidetrack"........gets fuzzy from there _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: |
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No worries mate |
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