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DannyinTexas
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Cylinder covers - have we ever found the source? Reply with quote

Is it a known fact that the cylinder covers were fabricated for the purpose, or is it possible they came off something else?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still unknown, Maybe a combination of both. The side cover certainly looks fabricated, but the raised design may have been a found piece of sheet metal or another material. The other side is so much more complex and organic looking, that it makes feel as though it was a found item. It still could have been sculpted for it and cast as a part. It does have some similarity to vintage streamlined tools. I haven't done a thorough search in a long time. It might be time for another all night search to see what I can find.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just had an idea about the left side cover. I was looking at a bad replica blaster one ebay, and it occurred to me that I had seen a plate like these on a small engine. Maybe it was a lawnmower, I don't remember now, but it might have been the oil filter cover plate or something like that.

Of course, you guys may have already considered this.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a new search is in order Very Happy

Good idea Danny,

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might have been the bottom of a carburetor on a weed-wacker. I just don't remember, it's like a peripheral flash of a memory...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was my peripheral flash of a memory that helped me identify the weaver knob. So I take those seriously.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. This new line of thinking has me very excited. After just a few minutes of research, I believe that we could be looking for part of a carburetor from a lawn mower. More specifically the cover plate from the fuel pump or possibly the breather plate.
In this picture of a Briggs and Stratton, you may imagine that a similar plate would have been cut in half horizontally.
http://propsummit.com/upload/816/carburator_1.jpg
We may be looking for a dual cylinder plate that was halved or possibly the breather plate from a single cylinder engine.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anybody asked the original prop builder?

(is it known who that was, or is he even still living?)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody knows who he is. According to Phil it was a Mexican gunsmith. Might be worth a new look into now that more people have been named working on the film with Charles de Lauzirika's work.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing worth exploring is professional camera equipment. (Mitchell, Ariflex, etc) might be a housing inside or outside of the body.
Lot's of weapon and props were built using these type of pieces (think StarWars and the likes).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what we need to do is to take a photo of the left and right side plates and show them to a motor repair place. Ask some old timer if he knows what they are and write down anything that comes to his mind. (dont mention the gun at all)
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