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Skin-Job
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That's lovely, that is.
Really looking forward to this, Dave.
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BeastMaster
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That second one is spot on! fantastic work dave! 
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hauptmann
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Perhaps this has already been answered, but how much weight does the steel barrel add to the Tomen, because the piece seems quite heavy already.
I'm a bit interested in adding the steel barrel, but given that I'm pretty squidgy about compromising the original piece, I need to be sure of it.
And is the plastic pistol frame strong enough to hold the much heavier steel barrel long-term?
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Ozwepaie
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| hauptmann wrote: | Perhaps this has already been answered, but how much weight does the steel barrel add to the Tomen, because the piece seems quite heavy already.
I'm a bit interested in adding the steel barrel, but given that I'm pretty squidgy about compromising the original piece, I need to be sure of it.
And is the plastic pistol frame strong enough to hold the much heavier steel barrel long-term?
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I'm sure it will be more the adequate. The barrel will slot into the hole w/
the metal plate.
but it will also bolt from the front the metal Steyr. That in turn hooks to
the bulldog in the rear. That will work to counter balance the load.
The piston on the rear of the bulldog is further supported w/ the metal
screw that mounts the right side panel.
Not to mention, the "plastic" they use is some pretty hard stuff.
There is a unused hole in the cylinder chamber. It's the under side of
the weaver hole. I tapped it about an 1/8 deep & torqued to see how
much it could take before cross threading.
It took a quite a bit! I was really surprised.
So ya... I would not worry about the weight. At all !
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, the original kit version back in the day was a plastic frame and a steel barrel and was just fine. |
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DaveG
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Yah, what Oz said!
Okay, some stats:
The Plastic barrel that I cut off my kit (which has a metal slug in it) weighs about 110 grams (3.88 ounces).
My steel barrel weighs 203 grams (7.16 ounces). that's a net increase of only 93 grams (3.28 ounces).
My assembled Tomenosuke Pro (with the original plastic barrel) weighs 1336 grams (47.13 ounces.
So the steel barrel will only add about 7% to the overall weight of the Blaster.
What you are really concerned about is the cantilevered torque the extra weight of the steel barrel will apply to the front of the plastic frame. Even without this being completely removed by the barrel bolting to the Receiver, I still wouldn't be worried about it. I think Tomen had graphite added to the plastic they used, which not only makes it look really cool and metallic, it makes it really tough too.
You know, the world will be a much better place when it gives up on this failed experiment called the "Metric System"!
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hirohawa
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| DaveG wrote: | Yah, what Oz said!
Okay, some stats:
The Plastic barrel that I cut off my kit (which has a metal slug in it) weighs about 110 grams (3.88 ounces).
My steel barrel weighs 203 grams (7.16 ounces). that's a net increase of only 93 grams (3.28 ounces).
My assembled Tomenosuke Pro (with the original plastic barrel) weighs 1336 grams (47.13 ounces.
So the steel barrel will only add about 7% to the overall weight of the Blaster.
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How will it affect it when targeting replicants. Is the added weight going to make it recoil/flip less so the second shot will be more on target.
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DaveG
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Pishaw! Who needs a second shot?!
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Hell, just throw it at them the weight alone would kill one  . |
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Hirohawa, if you're experiencing too much recoil movement when firing?
Simply adjust the hydraulic recoil reduction screw, (located at the nose of the gun, under the barrel) to apply more pressure.
That should do the trick?
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You know, the world will be a much better place when it gives up on this failed experiment called the "Metric System"! |
WORD!!!!! Honestly. I think the guy who invented it, did so because... 76.2mm just sounded more impressive when he measured his wang.
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| Ozwepaie wrote: | Hirohawa, if you're experiencing too much recoil movement when firing?
Simply adjust the hydraulic recoil reduction screw, (located at the nose of the gun, under the barrel) to apply more pressure.
That should do the trick?
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I should have read the manual.
Thanks for the tip. |
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Now now people, don't forget that some of the board members here are from countries where the metric is the norm (and since I live in Canada I'm also used to the Imperial one). Both are fine when the things you produce are either in one system or another.
Problems arise when you import a U.S. piece and try to make measurements with your metric ruler and vice-versa. 
Besides that, great to see that the transformation will not jepardize the integrity of the gun; good work you all  |
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Yeah! That metric system that all but 3 countries use...get rid of it!  |
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| joberg wrote: | | I'm afraid it's here to stay and in more than 3 countries. |
They can have my imperial ruler when they pry it from my cold dead fingers! (Along with my Blaster)
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I'll be closing sign up for the first run of barrels soon to order materials. Don't delay if you are interested!
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Update me for two barrels please - posted in the sale section too.
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Got the second prototype steel barrel drilled and tapped and assembled the kit with it in place. It fit like, well, like it was intended to! Actually the barrel sleeves into the frame precisely enough that once it's secured to the receiver and the mag housing with the screw no glueing is required. Rock solid, no wobble. So this means by undoing the three screws you can remove the barrel and swap it out for future variations, like, say, a slightly longer barrel threaded for a silencer. Oops! did I say that out loud!
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Whew. That sure is purty.
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***In Obi Wan voice***
All it needs is that steel front end cap.
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