tomenosuke bluing/mods

[DaveG]

I've not attempted to blue the zinc yet but one thing I know from blueing and chemically treating other metals is that you can get a lighter finish by diluteing the solution with water, sometime a lot. that way you can sneak up on the shade you want.
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[BeastMaster]

great idea dave. I wonder if you dilute a whole bottle of it in enough water so that you can dip the receiver in? This might give it a nicer even finish.

Looking at more pics on the tomen blog I saw that the receiver goes from jet black to the gun metal. I think they rub it down with fine sandpaper to get the lightness they want. I might order some black and do some tests on a sid bullet.

Also they seem to be using brushes. I'm not sure if they are brushing on the black. What are your thoughts on brushing this stuff on as opposed to using a sponge? Brushing will get into all the engraved areas too which is an advantage.
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[jontom]

Hey Beast,

Could you post the link to that page of the blog?

Its a bit hard to navigate the Japanese.

[colinfair]

hey

jontom

mine came out the same as Jakob's, after three attempts not happy with it putting on taking off i gave up and left the last coat on and then covered lacquer.

i didn't know you could water it down now I'm mad

colin

[BeastMaster]

Maybe you can try polishing it? Can use some fine sandpaper or wirewool and a tiny bit of silver polish. Did you pretty much leave it the natural black after applying it?
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[andy]

Tomenosuke blog with thread on blaster...

http://tenshu53.exblog.jp/tags/%E7%95%99%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9PRO/

If you want to translate it, you can use google and or chrome as well as babelfish at yahoo.com to do so. I use chrome or the google toolbar on explorer, but just cutting and pasting the web address into google and then it will give you an option to translate the page. I must teach everybody googlefu.

Andy

[jontom]

Here is the page of the blog where they mention Aluminum Black. Interestingly, the bottle is the second photo is Casey's Super Blue.

http://tenshu53.exblog.jp/17775272/

[joberg]

TFS Andy and jontom

[jontom]

I did some more poking around on the interwebs, its looks like this discussion comes up a lot on the modelgun forums, for people who have 1/1 scale replicas of actual firearms (German WWII SMGs, etc). This thread covers using Aluminum Black on a Colt 1911.

http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t2452-blueing

Note that he also discusses the dilution method that DaveG talked about.

[BeastMaster]

great find! So maybe diluting is the key. I imagine that you polish the hell out of the metal get a really shiney finish and the BAB will darken it still retaining the polish? or would it require a little bit of an extra polish after? Also how long would one dip it in for and how long do you leave it to dry? Also I've seen bluing tutorials where they rinse the part straight after the dip under cold water. Is this also required?
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[jontom]

My Aluminum Black and Perma Blue kit arrive next week, I hope to start experimenting with the Bulldog grip frame, and other pieces to get a feel for what this stuff does.

Gotta get to polishing!

[BeastMaster]

What can be used as a good decreasing agent? I'm thinking more along the lines of household stuff. I was thinking vinegar, though worried it might damage the zinc coating on the metal :S
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[Skin-Job]

rubbing alcohol, lighter fluid, acetone, methylated spirit, dish soap.....



Karl

[hirohawa]

[BeastMaster]

Yeah i remember bluing for the first time, got the stuff all over my hands! Not good Safety always comes first.
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[colinfair]

this is how mine turned out, i think i will strip it down again happy not happy with it

also could someone please give me an idea of how to wire up the green leds, i connected the wires to one of the red leds and all i got was a dull green glow.

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colin

[Ozwepaie]

I'll post a photo later to show you how to do it.
However, I can't get it to "phase"on the way the red ones do.
& it's driving me nuts. But it is just as bright. & does not require any
additional power. Nor does it dim the red lights.

You will need a 3/4" or longer, thin attachment for your soldering iron.
The one point is pain to get to.
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[colinfair]

thanks

looking forward to seeing that, yes it would be nice to have them phase in like the reds.

i would have thought since they supplied the leds they would have at least shown how to wire them to the board

cheers

colin

[Ozwepaie]

That's wishful thinking.
Anyway, here you go.


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[joberg]

TFS with us Oz...looking good for sure