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Hopkinsc1 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: Hopkinsc1's Live Fire Blaster Project. |
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So over the past few months I have been heavily modifying my Tomenosuke to a highly accurate "World-Con" build and, while I am in love with this gun, something always yearned at me. The need to have the real deal. A Live fire.
So I got the bulldog and other parts and liked the idea of having Deckards gun able to fire. But as I thought of it more I began to think to myself... I like the idea of having my gun fire.
So I picked up a Steyr as well.
I currently have a gunsmith who is doing some research on how to get this thing to fire without blowing off the side covers. I know of a couple ways this could be done, but we would obviously want to do it the safest way possible. I also have some decisions to make; to my understanding the gun parts were freshly blued on the gun for filming, then stripped (or worn down?) then aged once again to the color it is today; however, I like the idea of getting the parts to a gunmetal grey and protecting the coating; after all, this is now, for all intents and purposes, a completely different gun than Deckards. Different color LED's as well? I like the idea of blues possibly, maybe even Amber LED's.
I've got some choices to make with this... _________________ "Replicants are like any other machine. They can be a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit it's not my problem." |
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Not for the faint of heart for sure (ask Eltee, he'll tell you stories ).
Love it when someone tackle that kind of difficult project; lots of white hair, I see in the future, for your gunsmith ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Hopkinsc1 Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of this will be my Gunsmith. He's going to be talking to a few people in order to get an idea of what needs to happen. _________________ "Replicants are like any other machine. They can be a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit it's not my problem." |
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faust1193 Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't that a bit dangerous if you load a live round and the improvised gun explodes in your hand?
If I want to shoot I think I would just buy a real gun |
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Hopkinsc1 Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: |
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You are correct. This is why a gunsmith will be doing the work so it doesn’t become a grenade when it shoots. _________________ "Replicants are like any other machine. They can be a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit it's not my problem." |
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DonParker Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:28 am Post subject: |
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If I remember right , since they had to cut the ejector rod , and that let the cylinder wobble around, they used a screw to hold the crane tight to the frame. I've seen pictures where the big domed screw on the right side of the gun(which they replaced later with the Weaver scope knob) lines up directly with the crane.
Another thing is gas expelled through the cylinder gap can play havoc with the side covers. I think at least one person here who had a live fire gun had problems with the side covers wanting to blow off. He eventually had to cut a vent hole in to alleviate that. |
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Bwood Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: |
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What barrel ended up on the real prop, since it doesn't resemble at all the barrel on the Bulldog shown here? ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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DonParker Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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You can buy barrel blanks of just about any length you want and then cut them down , thread and crown them. |
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Hopkinsc1 Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Don is correct on all accounts. I currently have a blank at .03” off of the diameter and 6” I plant on using on my gun. I do have an older Charger Arms that is actually Blued, however so my smith will need to blue it to match.
As for the gases, I am going to see if we can go the way Ogrotesque1 with all of his where the barrel and the cylinder are as close as possible to each other so the gas goes out the barrel with the bullet. It will only be able to fire blanks or lower pressure cowboy loads but that way I can hopefully get the gun made with no obvious modifications made to the gun. My Smith is also talking to both Coyle and Phil Steinschneider so if anyone can instruct him on how to do it, , it will be them. _________________ "Replicants are like any other machine. They can be a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit it's not my problem." |
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Eltee got a real live fire BR blaster here (and others) he could give you some tips about those side covers ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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ogrotesque1 Community Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, lookin’ good Hopkins!
You are defiantly on the right track on all accounts so far.
Trust me, as long as your smith is able to get that cylinder gap as air tight as possible, you’ll be fine firing live rounds without the side covers flying off. Besides, that’s what loctite is for, haha!
Since you won’t be running around actually trying to retire replicants all night, lead rounds are just as fun for target shooting, not to mention they don’t sting the Hell out of your hands as bad as some of the more powerful ammo available. Some of that ammo really does a number on your wrists after a long day at the range, no thanks! I’m just fine with cleaning my Blaster more often from shooting cowboy loads.
Can’t wait to see the results Hopkins!
Good luck and be safe,
Damion _________________ Damion: ogrotesque1 |
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veektohr Community Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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ogrotesque1 wrote: |
Trust me, as long as your smith is able to get that cylinder gap as air tight as possible, you’ll be fine firing live rounds without the side covers flying off.
Damion |
100% this. Mind the gap! |
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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veektohr wrote: | ogrotesque1 wrote: |
Trust me, as long as your smith is able to get that cylinder gap as air tight as possible, you’ll be fine firing live rounds without the side covers flying off.
Damion |
100% this. Mind the gap! |
Yes indeedy, always mind that bitch! _________________ Damion: ogrotesque1 |
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Hopkinsc1 Community Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Appreciate it, fellas! Will be talking to my smith soon and see what is going on. I’ll also be trying to get in touch with Steinschneider again for pets. I’m excited to get this ball rolling! _________________ "Replicants are like any other machine. They can be a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit it's not my problem." |
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Well, have you gotten any further on your live-fire build at all? I’d love to see how its coming along?
Damion
Hopkinsc1 wrote: | Appreciate it, fellas! Will be talking to my smith soon and see what is going on. I’ll also be trying to get in touch with Steinschneider again for pets. I’m excited to get this ball rolling! |
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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In all the craziness that has been happening in the past few months, along with issues building my workshop (which will be worked out soon) there hasn't been much progress on my build. However, I'm hoping to change that within the month. _________________ "Replicants are like any other machine. They can be a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit it's not my problem." |
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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This will be the year we finish our builds ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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veektohr wrote: | This will be the year we finish our builds ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Hopefully I can say the same goes for me!? I still have my receiver, bolt, front and rear cap to machine/fabricate. Finding somebody with a knee mill isn’t all that easy it turns out. Most machine shops freak out over gun stuff and won’t even touch it. The gunsmith I was going to is on hiatus until he gets his FFL situated....and it’s taking forever! _________________ Damion: ogrotesque1 |
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ogrotesque1 wrote: | veektohr wrote: | This will be the year we finish our builds ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Hopefully I can say the same goes for me!? I still have my receiver, bolt, front and rear cap to machine/fabricate. Finding somebody with a knee mill isn’t all that easy it turns out. Most machine shops freak out over gun stuff and won’t even touch it. The gunsmith I was going to is on hiatus until he gets his FFL situated....and it’s taking forever! |
I'm looking into getting an FFL so that I can help people out with that. I just need my days to magically get longer ![Razz](images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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veektohr wrote: | ogrotesque1 wrote: | veektohr wrote: | This will be the year we finish our builds ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Hopefully I can say the same goes for me!? I still have my receiver, bolt, front and rear cap to machine/fabricate. Finding somebody with a knee mill isn’t all that easy it turns out. Most machine shops freak out over gun stuff and won’t even touch it. The gunsmith I was going to is on hiatus until he gets his FFL situated....and it’s taking forever! |
I'm looking into getting an FFL so that I can help people out with that. I just need my days to magically get longer ![Razz](images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
That would be amazing if you manage that one Veek, good luck! I wouldn’t mind getting myself an FFL too!! What I’d really like is a class 3 firearms license, but from what I’ve heard it’s literally almost impossible to get. Seriously, being an outstanding law abiding citizen with a perfect criminal record isn’t even close to good enough. I wonder just how difficult it actually is to get? _________________ Damion: ogrotesque1 |
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