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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: Dallas Prototype Jacket |
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Any thoughts on this jacket?
Here's what Propstore said in the description about it...
"A prototype jacket made for Tom Skerritt to wear as Dallas in the original Ridley Scott science fiction masterpiece Alien. This master prototype jacket was made for the actor by Tiny Nicholls the costume supervisor on the film and has “TN” handwritten inside, the jacket came from Tiny. Tom ended up wearing a darker version on screen in the end. The pale khaki coloured jacket has “Nostromo” printed on the back, 2 original “USCSS Nostromo, 180286” patches on both arms, pink trim around the collar and green coloured pockets and ties attached to the front and sleeves. The small patch on the front was added at a later stage and a mark where the original patch was can be seen. Has a “M. Berman Ltd.” costumers label inside. This very rare piece is a must for any Alien fan! "
I'd love to recreat this jacket, have been looking for a similar jacket with no luck.
Any ideas on what to search for?
Appreciate any help |
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thats where i saw the jacket for the first time but didn't see any info on this particular jacket, just the photo. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Could look for a tan RAF jacket and add the other parts.
Or check out second hand stores like Goodwill and see if you can find something similar circa 1970's.
You'd be amazed at the stuff you can find second hand.
I found a jacket the nearly matches the Rebel speeder pilots accept for the piping down the sleeves and the collar needed to be modified.
Still need to do the sleeves once I find some matching material.
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Those patches look suspiciously like the Thinking Cap Co. Patches.
Andy |
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help guys, will keep looking |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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The jacket is a RAF MK3 flying jacket.
You can try to find a used one on eBay or buy a Alpha Industries version. It's easier and cheaper to get one of those Alpha Ind. but some details aren't right compared with the screen-used Nostromo jackets : The buttons aren't the same (bigger) and the collar is a little larger...
It's still a good option tough if you don't want to put too much in it... The most tricky part is making the sleeve lacings... A RPF member do them (look at the devoted thread, don't remember his ID).
Oh yes, he's also doing screen-accurate shoulder patches... (the wings can be found easily through some online retailers). BTW Andy, why do you think the patches on the concept jacket (pic above) are from the Thinking cap co ?
Fred
PS : The NOSTROMO TAG on the back is pretty difficult too achieve, too... My dressmaker friend used vinyl to apply it on my jacket(s). _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Cheers Fred
Is the prototype jacket a Mk3 aswell?
It didn't look too much like it to me, but could be mistaken.
I sent a PM to the person on the RPF, still waiting for a response |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Yes Neil, the pen pockets are missing on the sleeve but I think it's a MK3... but the color has been deeply changed, maybe they were looking for a kind of NASA look ???
The lacings on the front pocket come from a very rare US flying suit IIRC, I would be you I'd rather do a Kane jacket (no front lacings)
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't mind doing a hybrid jacket. One that looks like the proto but without the front lacings, just the ones on the arms.
How would they change to colour that much? It looks like a white jacket thats be stained with something. |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Don't know how they did it... Using Javel or something like that ???
If I ever do another NOSTROMO jacket in the future, it would be Parker's... It's a leather jacket with patches and a yellow tag on the back... Pretty easy to do compared to Kane's & Dallas'... and very cool WW2 look !!!
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST |
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:31 am Post subject: |
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You know you will do another, Fred, lol.
I really want to attempt one now, maybe in the future i will.
If i do, i think it'll have to be Dallas's jacket. |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Good luck then... and please begin to spare money !!!
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST |
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Hopefully it wont cost too much. Not compared to most props out there anyway. |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I agree... I was talking mainly about the front pocket lacings... You'll have to buy TWO flying suits in order to do those, one for each pocket.
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST |
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Would be a great jacket to own though
Mind you, i have no sewing skills, so would have to get someone to do that aswell, lol. |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Gaff87 wrote: | Would be a great jacket to own though
Mind you, i have no sewing skills, so would have to get someone to do that aswell, lol. |
Same here, that's why I've asked a dressmaker friend who work in the movie industry to do my 6 jackets... (and that means MORE money to be spent, of course)
Fred _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST |
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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6 jackets?
Nearly all the members of the Nostromo.
Where did you get your lacing from Fred? |
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SKIN JOB 66 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Yep, 6...
The lacings came from 3 genuine Soviet VKK 6 flying suits... Not screen-accurate at all, I was looking for something original to wear on a daily basis...
Fred
Here's a work in progress pic taken last year (the colour of this one was rather green, the others were rather brown, Tim / Offworld66 owns one of them and seems to be very happy with it) :
I was looking for a weathered look, so even the patches were dyed to get a well used aspect... _________________ THE FUTURE IS A THING OF THE PAST
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Gaff87 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Very nice work Fred!!
That a real Mk3 or an Alpha Ind?
I really wanna make one of these now, lol. |
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