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matthewRoe
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Blade runner Model, stuck on interior! Reply with quote

Hi, this is my first time posting!
Im not sure if its aloud but i have been working on a Blade runner spinner model, but in 3D! I have been working on it for a few months now and have been running a blog about how i have progressed with the modeling procedure. Would appreciate it if any one has any comments, so far i am up to modeling the interior but i lack decent reference images. Perhaps some one has some good reference images i could look at?

Any way here is my blog

http://mattroework.blogspot.com/2009/07/sketching-out-basic-body-mesh.html

Here is a quick and rough render of the interior so far! more images can be seen on my blog

http://img101.imageshack.us/i/niceinterior.jpg/

Many thanks, and sorry if i have posted this in the wrong place!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Matthew...wow Shocked Fantastic 3-D rendering! I'm sure you'll like it here; keep up the good work and keep us posted.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks!!! will do. I already do like it here lol iv been spending far too long browsing over the blade runner collections people have. Im not envious at all...... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome aboard Mathew Wink
Really great work on the spinner 3d model, looks stunning.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Blade runner Model, stuck on interior! Reply with quote

Welcome Matthew --

As a guy who has worked in CG for over 25 years, I must congratulate you on great job. Not only have you done the complex design justice, but I sincerely appreciate the fact that you have taken the time to share your work with the rest of us..

I hope someone here is able to help you with the reference material you need..

Cheers and good luck
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DUDE.

And I thought I had it tough when I 3D modeled my spinner in Second Life's building methods. It has 1/50th the detail yours has. I'm extremely impressed!

Be sure to tell us where to get this when you're done - I'd love to examine every detail for hours, and find a way to view it with my TrackIR5 so I can get lost in geek escapism for a bit.

Awesome work dude.

Edit: Also, welcome to the site!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking real good Matt. BTW there is a copy of the Japanese Spinner Dokuhon on ebay right now. And also a big welcome to Propsummit.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again guys for your comments, very much appreciated.

I have a question. I remember watching the special features on the blade runner set and noticed that the original spinner design was to use a similar steering design seen in the picture added. But i also heard that the actual system that was designed made the spinner 'car' very had to manoeuvre. Did they settle for using a simple steering wheel when the spinner was filmed in motion?

http://img197.imageshack.us/i/picture1kz.png/

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Matt
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think IIRC that the drivable car was refitted with a steering wheel (small custom chain link style) after a crew guy crashed it with the other steering system. It may have been seen in the movie briefly, but I am not sure. All the other versions had the grip style steering handles as far as I know and can tell.

Another thing to remember is that they used the same interior for the ground car for filming close-ups so it can be used for reference too.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a quick Update,

Its still kinda rough, missing some buttons and possibly some detail to the control panel etc, and textures... but its getting there. I have shaded some of the model to 'what I believe is the correct colours, materials etc' from what I can see from my limited references. If any one has any critique or suggestions for an alternative colour or material to be used please say!

Hmmm one thing I noticed was the chairs themselves. From dvd and still images I have noticed the chair appeared to be made from black leather. However I have also found images of the mock up spinner, possibly used to film close ups or possibly used in the background traffic. to have a slightly beige, Swede color to it. If I can I want to stick as close to gaff's spinner which appears to have black leather seats. Not sure if any one has an opinion on this?

Also, I noticed the side door sections appear grey within some shots of the film, but are blue in the mock up spinners, as well as pretty much every model I have seen of the spinner. Would this be down to Gaff's spinner being created uniquely to individual shots? Or would his spinner of been made uniquely to his character?

Render so far of the interior cockpit. Quite dark.

http://img195.imageshack.us/i/latestrender.jpg/



Render but with a pinkish orangey sky. I have added this render as it helps increase the brightness of the lighting but also gives the model some standing and feeling of place.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/966/1024y.jpg

#edit: i have uploaded a better compressed render.



Please any critique or suggestions feel free to say! Wink

Matt

p.s sorry for the lack of quality on the renders, it seems when exported as a j-peg and then uploaded on imageshack they loose a lot of quality


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is insane!!
Love it.

IIRC, the scene where Deckard goes to Sebastians, when he's in his car it's actually the interior of a spinner. Not sure whether you've used that as reference or not but thought i'd mention it incase you hadn't.

Keep up the great work!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh interesting, i wasn't aware of that il check that out too!

Thanks

Matt
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthewRoe wrote:
Ahh interesting, i wasn't aware of that il check that out too!

Thanks

Matt


No worries Smile

I hope i got the info correct, i'm sure someone else will chime in with more info.

Try pages 80 & 81 on this site....

http://www.tyrell-corporation.pp.se/gallery/index.php?sfpg=SGlnaCBEZWZlbml0aW9uIENhcHR1cmVzLyoqODAqKioxNGI4NzRjMzJhZjI1MGIxZTIyYjg0MzJhNTg2ZDA3YQ
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent!!!

from these references the side door is blue! hmmm awesome, these images are a great help!

Thanks

Matt

p.s very sneaky of them, to use a spinners interior for the car scene. I can see why tho, im glad you pointed that out i wouldn't of noticed myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad i could help Smile

Not sure if the site owner is a member here or not but it's a great site for reference.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt: I haven't touched 3D modeling software in quite some time. When you finish the model, will you be releasing it or just using it for a bunch of screenshots. I'd love the thing itself. If it's the former, what software would you recommend as the easiest to open a file such as yours to view?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, this is looking really peachy Matt!

Cheers for keeping us up to date with your progress!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Control Panel Update

I had difficulty nail down a definite reference for the control panel, so iv used some artistic license along with the limited references i had. Hope iv done it justice. The same goes for the back board, i think just adding buttons and gizmos kinda sells it. For the colored buttons iv used a similar design to deckards key card. Hmmm at the moment the buttons are kinda translucent so possibly the detail is hard to pick out. Might change this at some point.

Control Panel Renders

http://img71.imageshack.us/i/panely.jpg/

http://img223.imageshack.us/i/penl.jpg/

http://img523.imageshack.us/i/controlpanel.jpg/

Please any comments or critique greatly appreciated

Matt
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good lord!

I got Maya up and running and I think I've got the very, very basics down. This stuff must take forever!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeap! depends how detailed u go lol, it can take half a day to model a chair!

all good fun tho Smile
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