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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joberg wrote:
Good score Dave, it's a great replica to add to your collection of BR related stuff...now, as you know there's a few guys here that could supply with real steel replacement pieces for your gun, if needs be Wink


Actually I have a lathe and am already considering "upgrading" it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curious on how easily it breaks down? One of the few reasons I like my Offworld.

I really wish I was in a place to afford one of these right now. I really like how this replica gives the impression of a real factory made gun (which to a degree it is), rather than an assemblage of parts, which the hero prop basically is. I can't wait to see what else these guys are up to.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looing forward to (carefully) taking the Tomen apart. But I'm away from my shop for a few more weeks so it'll have to wait.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Got my Tomensuke Pro today! Reply with quote

DaveG wrote:
\They did an great job creating this replica. I know some of the details may not be 100 percent screen accurate but the fit and finish are exceptional.\


I'd like to know what you're referring to in terms of inadequacies? I've got my Tomenosuke displayed by my Coyle and they look damn close. Just curious.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Got my Tomensuke Pro today! Reply with quote

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I'd like to know what you're referring to in terms of inadequacies?


The plastic materials and plug inserts in the barrel, cylinder and frame mandated by Japanese legislation would probably be the top items...
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't use the term "inadequacies". As to whether the Tomen or the Coyle is more accurate, quite frankly I could care less! That's not what I was referring to. Here are my only (very minor) issues with the Tomen:

The bolt lever flops open when the gun is inverted. It would have been nice if they'd engineered some sort of click stop to keep it in the closed position.

The grips are not quite as polished as they could be. The Hero grips look crystal clear in the reference photos. This is something I can deal with.

The aluminum grip butt has an un-finished look. It should have been more polished to keep in the style of this version, which is more that of a brand new firearm than a 25 year old prop. Again, something I can deal with.

The Weaver knob projects to far out, looks like it's post is too tall. I'm sure I can remedy this when I get back to the shop.

That's pretty much it, and I am still very happy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like they might be doing an all black stunt/police version without the LED's...

http://tenshu53.exblog.jp/12661373/

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We already saw the black grips... And now we see a replica Steyr clip with no modifications, so yeah! I'd say all signs point to "yes".
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, has anybody else noticed that this thread has FIFTY TWO THOUSAND views? Shocked

Folks like the blaster!
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the bolt lever actually flops around pretty good in the sequence when it gets dropped. The floppy lever is screen accurate! Smile

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! That's going a bit too screen accurate. (if that's a term)
I would like to see them build the bolt and housing so that it properly locked into place when the lever was down. My couple of pennies.


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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's kind of funny Is that my Harrford has a lockiing mechanism for the bolt! Not accurate, but a nicE feature.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually find it quite natural to lay my index finger across the bolt lever, while handling the gun. Almost feels like it was designed for that!

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Kovach engineered his model with a bolt that locked down too. My Hartford's have nearly the same feel as his. It's a feature I prefer. The hartford's are so far from accurate anyway, why not.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With models like the new Pro and mine you can tighten the set screws in the scope mounting holes to lock the bolt.

That is if my info is right that the new Pro has real set screws like mine has, the frist model had cast in fake screws.


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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By all accounts, the newest versions have the look and feel of a real firearm. Wouldn't it be nice if it behaved like one and the lever didn't flop about like a toy? You should be able to slide the bolt into place and have the lever stay down.
Is it as simple as countersinking a couple tiny magnets in the right places?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it was the way the real prop acted.

When Karl and I was looking at the real prop the lever just slipped open on us and that was when we found out the details of the bolt and lever, and side cover, so that is real to the real prop.

Of course it is not real to a real gun.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm not so concerned with screen accurate as I am with the prop feeling like a real manufactured item. It should feel solid and sturdy like a real gun.
That's what I mean by "too accurate." Nothing says we can't improve the most talked about prop in Sci-Fi.

While I'm babbling, I've always had a problem with those white wires for the ammo clip LEDs. It looks like there might have originally been an interior wiring set up that failed at some point and the on set prop people had to figure something out quick to get those LEDs working so they re-wired them on the fly and left the wires exposed. If it was originally wired as seen on screen, then why not use black wires?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about the wires which is why I normally hide them

I think it would be fair easy to put a dimple in the bolt and stick a bb with a small spring under a screw to give it a pop in locking setting.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems simple enough and would really do the trick.
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