Name Worldcon VS Blade Runner Blaster

[racprops]

After some consideration I have decided to drop the word Worldcon from my model.

After all, as Andy pointed out I am not doing the worldcon model I am doing the Filmed movie prop model.

After hours of research by myself and others, no one has found the weaver knob anywhere within the film and there was no real showing of ware and rust within the film and ever the white wires were seemly hidden by black tape in the dropped gun scene so most of the time I hide them as well.

So I am going back to calling my models the Blade Runner Blaster.

Rich
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[joberg]

I think that's an excellent idea Rich.

[andy]

Considering you have so many different versions of your gun, you might want something to distinguish this version from all the rest. I agree that the "Worldcon" title is way over used and refers to gun in not it's best condition, or even how it was seen on film. I know you have recently used CS&T more recently to distinguish your latest versions as to ones made after Karl's worldcon photos changed how the gun was made and seen. Maybe you can go back and continue your "V" distinctions, and call this the "V5 Metal" or something like that. Maybe you can just use the year it was made to show how up to date it is?

Still like it or not, the term "Worldcon" will always mean the most the modern era of these replicas, and specifically to the most accurate. It seems like you can never escape being compared to the Worldcon photos. How about reestablishing the concept of "screen seen hero" to get away from the rust, wear and weaver knob of the "worldcon hero"? These are all just thoughts on the whole naming process, and observations on how we all talk about the gun here. Use it as you will.

Andy

[racprops]

I agree with most of what you say.

So I am dropping the term Worldcon from my plague for Blade Runner and I call it in copy a "Screen Accurate Model" IE AS seen within the film its self.

I will still talk about the Worldcon model within my ad copy and explain how all this fits together.

Here is my new plaque:

Rich


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[ocd]

Just butting in. couldn't help myself. Sorry.

label suggestion;

B L A D E R U N N E R - B L A S T E R
2019 DET.SP. CS&T/B.R.U. - V2011
Film Version Replicant - (reproduction)
By Racprops / R.Coyle #???? of 500


Refer to it as the "Racprops - V2011" version

Needs to be catchy and easy to remember. Then all you need to do is change the last digit as the years change.

AWSOME work by the way.

Here are some of the names from past blasters:

STAYR DEIMLAR PUCH E.G. STAYR-MENNLICHAR MODEL SL. 5223

Pflager Katsumata Series D -II 2018 model
Oz Shop Gun 82-86 PW Series Model I
Adven -Adventure Make 87 Series Model I
A-G R&R PKD-1 Series Model II
C&S PKD-I Series Model I
Coyle & Steinschneider Stunt-Rep. Series Model I
Coyle Stunt-Rep. Series Model II
RAC Props Series Model II
CS&T Series Model II
2019 Detective Special CS Series Model II
Chif’s Special Hartford Series Model
Hartford M2019 Series Model
Hartford PFC Series Model
Kovach SL-Dapas Series I Model
MIM 2019 Series Model
PKD I Series Model SL
PKD 2 Series Model SL
PKD I & 2 Snub-Nose Series Blaster Model
PKD 3 Snub Grip Series Blaster Model III
Sidkit Series Model SL
Off-World MPG Model 2019 B.R.U. SPecial Issue 0316
Off-World MPG Model c 2019 B.R.U. Special Issue 0316
Coyle Worldcon Series Model SL I & II
Elfin KP j.M. Limited M.M.P. Series
Tomenosuke Blaster M.A.M.B.R. Worldcon Limited

[eltee]

In the real gun world, "Detective Special" denotes a snubby. It would appear that the uniformed 2019 cops as well as the non-uniformed ones carried the same sized gun. Just something to think about.

My suggestion would be something along the lines of "Police Special" or simply B.A.G. (Big Ass Gun), or Hero Sidearm. To me, "Detective" makes me think about a 2" barrel on a small gun.

IIRC, and I might not, they did not use the title "detective" in the film or books. In fact, in the book Deckard was a police employed independent bounty hunter.

A curious thing is that if the street cops carried the same gun, are we to assume it is just an era standard sidearm and not specifically designed to retire the hard-to-kill replicants? From what I gather, the only visual difference is the grips and that could be due to expedience (cast replicas in all black) or due to police practices realism (we like to select our own grips on duty guns as a personal touch).

My end of the year ramblings.

[racprops]

We thought "Detective Special" would mean Deckard got the more powerfull and dressed up model a "Special..."

Also the ammo for the Bulldog is called 44 Special.

Rich
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[andy]

From my gun books and online it does look like the "Detective" versions of the pistols seem to be all snubs. I am guessing that is because they are more likely to be a concealed weapons, drawn and aimed quickly, and used at short range. They also seem to come in all calibers. Even detective models of automatics have a shorter barrel. So I would have to agree with eltee on this one.

In the movie many of the police also had stunts with the painted grips, that looked wood grain, but also looked very much like what the amber grips look like from a distance. I am not sure if detectives are more likely to use fancier guns or not. I am sure some of the fancier guns are saved for dress uniforms and such, but I think eltee could tell us more which types of cops are likely to have the fancier guns.

FWIW, I like the term HC for Hand Cannon myself

Andy

[racprops]

All well and good but for two problems, I already ordered the plaques and we have been calling my model the "Detective Special" from the beginning

So in the future perhaps Special will come to mean ...special issue.

Thanks.

Rich
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[andy]

I thought you were asking our input/advice here? I guess this is what you call "jumping the gun". just kidding you.

Andy

[andy]

[racprops]

About dropping the word Worldcon yes... did not exspect anything on the rest...

And jumping the gun beats jumping the shark.

Rich
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[andy]

[andy]

I did a little more research, and from I see the gun should probably have been called a "Police Special" which is another name for the longer barreled .38. Of course if this is a "Detective Special" maybe that means there is a version with a longer barrell as well. The Charter Arms version of the DS was called the Undercover or Bulldog Pug for the .44.

Some more info on the "Detective Special"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Detective_Special

Andy

[racprops]

OK Then we are not too out of step.

Thanks.

Rich
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[andy]

For the record, the only 4" barrels for the Charter Arms .44 pistols were made for the Police and Target Bulldogs.

[ocd]

"Some of these are the same gun by other names, and a couple seem to combine gun names from multiple replicas (something a few recasts were famous for). Still there are a few here that I am not sure about like "A-G" for instance. I don't know what that is referring too. have you seen my Glossary and timeline for the guns yet? If you have some information I am not privy to, I would love to have some help finishing up these reference lists. "

Andy

Andy,

Your list is were these were originally culled (Borrowed?) from.

I used it when I was creating a fictional OffWorld Blaster User Manual

It's posted on the thread -How is the Blaster ment to work theoretically? Am confused.-

"Excerpt from 2019 edition - Owners manual OffWorld 2019C BRU. "
http://propsummit.com/upload/949/ow_m2019c_lapd_bruinstg_page_01.jpg

Since OffWorld didn't have one I made one up using info off this site ect.

Hope I haven't upset anyone with this. If any one want to download it I'm ok with it. (12 pages total) - All I ask is DO NOT TO SELL IT.

As far as the AG goes I don't know, Might just be a typo on my part.


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