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AaronD82 Community Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 93 Location: Bournemouth, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:34 am Post subject: Amber Grips - Wet Sanding |
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Hi All
Happy new year to everyone!
I'm hoping for some advice - I'm finally starting work on my Dad's Bladerunner blaster, and I have everything ready to go.
The only thing I'm not 100% comfortable with, is treating the amber grips.
I keep seeing people refer to wet sanding, and buffing, but was hoping someone would be able to chime in and be a little more specific.
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Do I use wet & dry sand paper all over the grips whilst underwater, then buff?
Do I buff with a polish? if so, any particular type? (I'm uk based, so products may differ)
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I don't want to sand the grips and deface them, so if anyone can help me with this, I would really appreciate it
Cheers |
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racprops Community Member
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Who's grips are you working on??
And why are you thinking of sanding them??
To fit them to the grip frames or are they in poor shape?
The clear plastics can be problems, I do everything to avoild sanding my grips, I fix the frames and butt plate to fit them.
If they fit OK the try a little paint/metal polish and a soft rag to clean them up a little, unless you have done buffing on a buffer, it can be dangious to do.
And in most cases IF you sand then you will need to buff them out....
My 2 cents worth.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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AaronD82 Community Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 93 Location: Bournemouth, England
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Hi Rich
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm referring to the treatment people give them to make them more translucent. |
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racprops Community Member
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Try Mother's Mag Polish, Phase Pistol found that it really cleans them up.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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phase pistol Community Member
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1147
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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it's true, I used Mother's Mag (an automobile polish for aluminum) and a microfiber cloth, and rubbed the inside surface of the grips... turned them from cloudy to water-clear! An amazing transformation.
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racprops Community Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:32 am Post subject: |
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I think the polish removes the mold releise from the cast parts...I have found I can also buff my grips and get a great finish...
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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amfx74 Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Hi AaronD82,
I can't find any good polishes her in australia so I use Brasso metal polish and it works well as long as you don't get it in the checkered groves as it is hard to clean out. Works well with a rag. I also use a wool buffing attachment in my drill to buff.
your other question about wet sanding. I use wet and dry paper (black coloured paper). Starting with P400 then P800 and finally P1200. To use it I tear a piece off and fold it over to give myself more grip, then dip it in some water and carefully sand the surface. Then polish with the Brasso. If you need more of a shine, a light coat with a clear coat will add extra shine, but watch out with that as it could chip and look awful.
Hope that helps |
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AaronD82 Community Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 93 Location: Bournemouth, England
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Thank you amfx74 - that's the sort of step by step description I was after! |
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kurtyboy Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Getting in in the checkered grooves might be a good thing if you're going for screen accurate.
amfx74 wrote: | Hi AaronD82,
I can't find any good polishes her in australia so I use Brasso metal polish and it works well as long as you don't get it in the checkered groves as it is hard to clean out. Works well with a rag. I also use a wool buffing attachment in my drill to buff.
your other question about wet sanding. I use wet and dry paper (black coloured paper). Starting with P400 then P800 and finally P1200. To use it I tear a piece off and fold it over to give myself more grip, then dip it in some water and carefully sand the surface. Then polish with the Brasso. If you need more of a shine, a light coat with a clear coat will add extra shine, but watch out with that as it could chip and look awful.
Hope that helps |
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ocd Community Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Royal Oak MI
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Just my "2 cents"
I replaced my Offworld grips with some from a BAD re-CAST of a RickRoss 1rst version PKD as they were the only really usable part.
And I HAD to wet sand them. Otherwise I would NOT recommend it.
So what did I do, you ask.
I used testers really fine 1 and 3 micron sanding paper for plastic models.
(It comes in a pack with all grades of sanding paper you need for this project).
Start with the course and work your way to fine.
DO NOT SAND THE CHECKERING arias. JUST the smooth arias
To wet sand go to a sink, turn on the water and get the paper wet AND the grip. Hold you grip under the water and sand. As long as the grip is wet you do not need to keep it in the running water.
Sand in ONE direction ONLY. ie back and forth NOT circular.
Sand for 3-5 minutes tops for each successively fine sand paper until your grips FEEL smooth. Use you fingers to feel this.
The grips will look progressively clearer as you go WHEN they are wet.
Once you dry them they will be smooth BUT NOT crystal clear.
To make them crystal clear, you will need to seal them with Testers CLEAR ACRYLIC Gloss BRUSH on. NOT the spray rattle cans.
IF you use the spray rattle can, for some reason it will never dry completely and it will get tacky after you handle it for a few minutes.
You should use a new wide brush to apply.
Follow the directions on the bottle.
I did not use any polish just elbow grease.
Here is an example. One is an Offworld and one (bottom blaster)is an Offworld with the RR Grips.
http://propsummit.com/upload/949/img_0290.jpg
Hope this helps and is not "too much info".
Best of luck! _________________ "No choice pal,..."
"Questions?,..." |
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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to add that wet sanding the clear grips would only be recommended if there a texture or irregularity to the grips more than just a cloudy matte finish, otherwise you are creating more work that will still need to be polished later. Another technique to fill in small scratches and such is to use Future floor wax or another equivalent acrylic floor polish.
Andy |
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phase pistol Community Member
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1147
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Actually on mine I just sanded the inner surface of the grips, the side that goes up against the metal grip frame. For buffing the outside I just rubbed it with the microfiber cloth. Worked great. |
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amfx74 Community Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: |
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kurtyboy wrote: | Getting in in the checkered grooves might be a good thing if you're going for screen accurate. |
Hi Kurtyboy, what do you mean more screen accurate. Polishing the grooves or leaving the polish residue? |
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Leaving the polish residue |
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amfx74 Community Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
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I took another look at the Worldcon photos and the residue is almost exactly what the Brasso looks like. Got some on my snubby handle.
So there you go. For anyone wanting the residue look, get some Brasso. I also use it to polish the scratches from my Swatch face. |
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kurtyboy Community Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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How do you know it was made in Poland?
joberg wrote: | Leaving the polish residue |
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Whadaya mean it's made in Poo' Land? |
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